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That first counselor is a Clueless Claudia who says things that are frankly nonsensical and contradictory. This video isn’t evidence of infanticide. It’s evidence of appalling employee training and atrocious counseling. THAT is the story here. She sounds like she’s just pulling things out of thin air to get this freaky patient to stop talking about distressing things.
The second counselor sounds MUCH more like she knows what she’s taking about.