Every week on Monday morning, the Council and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher’s Forum with short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture or daily living. This week’s question: What Are Your Feelings on The GOP House Leadership Saying They Are ‘Hell Bent’ On Passing Immigration Reform This Year?
Liberty’s Spirit: Yes, there needs to be immigration reform. The situation as it exists is untenable. First the government needs to secure the border. We saw with the Bundy ranch development, when the federal government wants to, they are able to amass a huge show of force. It would be nice if they did that to oversee our security. Border states have been asking for help for years to combat the actions of those that traffic in humans and drugs, and not simply during the Obama administration. If it becomes unprofitable for coyotes and others, like the Chinese tongs and East European mafias, that actually smuggle in people through the ports of New York and on the west coast, then we could put a huge dent in human trafficking. It is a big issue here in the Untied States even though no on seems to want to talk about it. The borders are not just porous from those crossing over the Rio Grande. Furthermore, a bigger issue is that the openness of our borders allows for infiltration by terrorists groups. It is believed that our enemies already have sleeper cells throughout the country, which came undetected, including through the Canadian border (people tend to forget our border to the north in this discussion).
There, however, is a big problem once the border is secure: what to do with the myriad of illegal immigrants that are already living in the United States. They do take jobs away from American citizens. They are paid less than Americans, under the table, by these employers who do not file the appropriate taxes on their behalf. Furthermore, the illegals do use our healthcare system, welfare system, educational system and invariably do not pay taxes themselves on what they earn. On top of that, if they happen to have a child born in the United States, these children are entitled to safety net protections. Do we deport American citizens to a country that they know nothing about? Do we deport people who have set up roots in this country or do we create a system for them so that they can become legal? Is it cheaper for this country to just let them stay and create a path to citizenship? Should they be allowed to stay, but not allow them to become citizens (equal protection and civil rights issues with that one, but could be overcome)?
If the government is not going to deport those who came here illegally, then here are some ideas: These people broke American law when they came. Letting them off the hook without paying some recompense to society is inappropriate. I have no issue with doubling the years it takes to become a citizen once they gain a green card. Let it take them 10, not 5 years before they can apply for citizenship (heck make it 15 years, but make it a long waiting period). They should pay a fine, one that is not simply a slap on the wrist. Make it painful. When we don’t pay our taxes on time, the government levies penalties and interests. The government comes after citizens for monies citizens owes, let them go after these illegals. I am not opposed to the idea of the DREAM ACT for those that were brought here by their parents if they were under 14 years of age. However, the idea that going to college could alleviate their obligations to society is a nonstarter (they should not be allowed to earn scholarships or get student loans for school either). The only way to gain legal status for these persons should be through serving in the US armed services. But they also have to be able to meet the standards set by the armed services in education and ability as well. In fact, I have no issue with any illegal wanting to serve in the US armed services if they want to shave off a few years from the (10 year) waiting period.
Lastly, and in some ways most importantly, is dealing with those Americans who hire illegals. There should be jail time for every year taxes were not filed and paid, huge fines levied and community service once they are let out of prison. This should include those individual families who hire illegals for any domestic purpose as well. Not simply corporations. These Americans are not filing appropriate taxes for their illegal alien employees and by doing this they are aggrandizing themselves at the expense of the American people. They are literally stealing from every one of us.
The Noisy Room: This is something I predicted long ago. You have the Progressives on the Left who want a permanent voting majority and the Progressives on the Right supporting crony capitalism and pushing for a permanent slave class for the Chamber of Commerce and their cohorts.
I consider the ‘hell bent’ push from the GOP House leadership as nothing short of an utter betrayal of conservative principles and America in general. All to push a Marxist agenda and line their own pockets. They have to push it this year, because it will never fly under more conservative leadership. We are no longer talking two parties, but in reality a one party system vs. the American people.
Boehner and the current power brokers of the GOP no longer represent the people who elected them — indeed they haven’t for years now — but rather their own influence and wealth, and it’s time for their constituents to un-elect them. Conversely, the party segment upon whom they heap the most abuse, hate and outright lies — the Tea Party and those aligned with it — resonate with the real America, the grass roots taxpayers and represent a restoration of Constitutional principles and the vision of our Founding Fathers.
The GOP “old guard” have morphed into self-declared enemies of America’s everyman — indeed, have created themselves as the enemies within — and it is a matter of greatest urgency that they be unplugged from any ability to influence our economic and civil welfare. They’re promising to permanently poison the political font in this country and that’s simply unacceptable. It’s time to fire the lot of them.
I am reminded of the boardroom scene at the end of The Secret of My Success, where the senior execs tell the corporate raider, Donald Davenport, that they are worried they’ll be replaced: “What we’re concerned about, frankly, is the upper management positions;” to which Davenport responds, “Most of ‘em will have to go. But a handful of ‘em… who have been so helpful… like yourselves, of course… will be stayin’ as long as you like.”
Our government has been taken over by political raiders who now control the narrative, the press and, indeed, the election results. From their behavior, it would seem that our GOP “leadership” has found itself in a boardroom meeting with the Marxist raider who has assured them that, though most of the Republican influence will have to go, “… a handful of ‘em… who have been so helpful… like yourselves, of course… will be stayin’ as long as you like.”
My take? Fire the bastards. Fire them all.
JoshuaPundit: First, I have problems calling this ‘immigration reform.’ What we are talking about here is an illegal migration problem and the failure to enforce our laws. Immigrants are people who have legal permission from a sovereign country to migrate and settle. True immigration reform would involve scrapping the diversity visas and country quotas and doing what Australia, Canada, New Zealand and other developed nations that are prime immigration targets have done – to establish a points system that changes according to the country’s requirements and applies equally to anyone seeking to migrate.
What’s happening here is that Speaker Boehner and the GOP establishment are listening to the consultant class that is pushing the notion of a Hispanic tidal wave that must be pandered to at all costs, a myth I already deconstructed some time ago. Conveniently, the idea of amnesty also appeases certain large donors who want to ensure a continuing supply of cheap labor.
In the end, three things are evident. First, we can continue to support large scale illegal migration, or we can continue to be a welfare state, but we can’t do both. Second, the importation of one select ethnic demographic consisting largely of poorly educated blue collar workers unsuited for a 21st century economy is both racist, unfair and a ultimately a recipe for balkanization and economic disaster. And finally, the security implications of unpoliced and porous borders are unacceptable for any sovereign nation, especially given the realities after 9/11.
Any politician of either party supporting what amounts to amnesty for political purposes is guilty of betraying their oath to the American people and the public trust. There is simply no excuse for it.
“An imminent Republican debate over immigration will play into the hands of the Democratic party. With the widespread unpopularity of Obamacare, Republicans should instead focus on the embattled health-care law ahead of the 2014 midterm election. By pivoting to the issue of immigration, Republicans are walking right into the trap.”
“First of all, at a time when Americans are suffering from high levels of unemployment, they should not be adding illegals into the job market until we can rectify the situation for Americans.
The Democrats will certainly blame the Republicans for exacerbating the jobless situation for Americans and castigate the GOP as the party of big business and corporations who want cheap labor.
“Second, why would Speaker Boehner do anything that feeds more members into the liberal progressive welfare nanny-state? Who does the Speaker believe these new legal-status individuals will support?
“Think we have voter fraud issues now?
“Lastly, why would the GOP want to discourage its base, which enabled them to have a House majority in 2010?
Fair points all – yet it may be a way more smarter tactical play.
The qualifier in SOH’s Heck Bent Stance is something something “44 must first prove he is a trustworthy partner in reform.”
Since 64% of Americans believe 44 is a big fat fibber, The Speaker’s play is a GOP smokescreen designed to knock the immigration sword out of the Dem’s hand in the 2014 mid-terms.
The Independent Sentinel: My initial reaction is to ask how Republicans are any different from Democrats except they are not as good at being Democrats as Democrats are. I remember when they conducted the autopsy after the 2012 election. I thought at the time that use of the word “autopsy” was unfortunate, but they weren’t kidding apparently. They really are dead.
Until the border is secured and people here illegally are actually deported, we shouldn’t be considering immigration reform. We shouldn’t consider any immigration reform that doesn’t include an assimilation component. Do we really want people coming here illegally for entitlements or do we want people who actually buy into our values and want to be real Americans?
Republicans are on a suicide mission if they think they can trust Barack Obama with an immigration reform package. Instead, they should be looking at ways to stop him from refusing to enforce the laws we have.
If Barack Obama wanted to cut down on illegal immigration, he would crack down on people who jump visas or cross our borders illegally. He doesn’t and that should tell us all we need to know.
Bookworm Room: I’m very sorry that it isn’t within my power to fire House leadership. Whether they support amnesty because they are payed to do so (and these payments could come from anyone from George Soros to the Chamber of Commerce) or because they actually believe amnesty will allow them to court Hispanic votes, it’s a terrible, dangerous, very bad idea that will lead to a permanent Democrat majority for decades.
Even though many Hispanics ought to be Republican voters to the extent that their values center on family, hard work, faith, and a belief in life’s sanctity, the Democrat party has bought and paid for them with welfare checks that outweigh all other considerations and by planting in them a sense of victimization that makes them a natural Democrat Party constituency.
The Glittering Eye: Presumably, it means that there are Congressional Republicans who are just desperate to pass an immigration reform bill with an amnesty provision in it. I can’t quite seem to get my mind around that.
IMO a populist immigration reform bill could have been passed years ago, but for its unacceptability to the Democratic Senate leadership. A populist immigration bill would include tighter workplace (and maybe even border) enforcement, some form of the DREAM act, and not a great deal else. All of those have supermajority popular support, but much lower support from both parties in Congress.
Well, there you have it.
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Have you noticed the similarities between Barack Obama’s platform and that of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)? The correlations are undeniable to anyone who is being honest.
Americans voted for this man not once, but twice! Al Sharpton did say that the American people knew they were voting for socialism when they voted for Barack Obama.
Listen to the Communist propaganda video below which was put out by the Communist Party USA. It puts out an idyllic vision based on the lie that a few people with all the power will allow the collective to thrive.
This is their platform: people before profit – translation, hate the rich; good jobs, green jobs, they’re synonymous apparently; reform prison – leniency for lawbreakers; equality and fairness; nature before profits; healthcare; socialism is a necessity; people, community, harmony, freedom, education, justice, peace; peace and harmony through communism.
Capitalism is the only thing keeping us back, the video claims. We want change, they demand (is that something like Hope and Change?):
Do you like the sleekness of the presentation? They start out zeroing in on a priest and then there is that great music and the blossoming flower.
The video is actually pushing for the overthrow of Capitalism. They need to be tried for treason, instead they get more respect than Conservatives who are demonized as racists, lunatics, and flat-earthers in no small measure due to Obama’s influence.
Communism has at its core a hatred for what they say is an exploitation of the working class and poor on the part of the rich. To achieve equity, the money must be redistributed from the rich to everyone else who didn’t earn it. It’s the class struggle.
Obama likes to play up the class struggle as his policies create an even wider divide between rich and poor by diminishing the middle class. It’s built on the illogical and debunked premise that workers who earn pay for equivalent labor are exploited – there must be income equality no matter who earns what.
Profits, competition, and individual success have no room in their system.
There is also the belief that the government and not the individuals should own the land because private ownership of land drives men to commit offenses, in fact, they believe it’s a driving force of evil.
These selected quotes ascribed to the Communists are excerpted from the CPUSA’s party platform which I will not link to.
COMMUNISTS: “The great wealth of the United States will for the first time be for the benefit of all the people. Foreign policy will be based on mutual respect, peace, and solidarity. The peoples democratic rights will be guaranteed and expanded. Racial, gender, and social equality will be the basis of domestic policies and practices.”
OBAMA: Redistributing healthcare and U.S. resources is a cornerstone of Obamanism. Respect for Putin was the basis of the reset. The equality issue is for all except for Republicans and Conservatives. It’s not for ranchers either, Obama was ready to have them shot in Nevada these past couple of weeks. Income inequality, the war against women and the unfairness towards LGBTs is the mantra for 2014 and 2016.
COMMUNISTS: “We, the working people of the United States, face tremendous problems today: exploitation, oppression, racism, sexism, a deteriorating environment and infrastructure, huge budget deficits, and a government dominated by the most vicious elements of big capital and its political operatives. This government, despite its rhetoric about making Americans safe, has wasted hundreds of billions on the invasion and occupation of Iraq while it cut money for maintaining the levees leading directly to the disaster that Hurricane Katrina wreaked on the people of New Orleans and much of the Gulf Coast.”
OBAMA: He would say exactly the same thing if his words ever reflected his actions.
COMMUNISTS: “We as a country face serious choices: militarism and imperialism or peace, increased wealth for the few or justice and equality for the many, increased power in the hands of the super-rich or expansion of democracy for the vast majority, ultra-right domination of all branches of government which deals with problems by increasing exploitation and oppression or progressive electoral coalitions that seek real solutions in the interests of all working people.”
OBAMA: Obama certainly has no interest in militarism. He’s reducing the size of our Army to slightly larger than Miramar’s as he destroys all our nuclear warheads. He does want to take money from the rich, but this is where the two platforms differ. Obama is no friend to small business but he does like the super rich and his crony friends. He can’t make them rich enough as long as they are engaged in green energy and his other agenda items. He is a fan of Wall Street.
COMMUNISTS: “The ultra-right is led by the most reactionary, militaristic, racist, anti-democratic sectors of the transnationals. They gain support for their ultra-right agenda from other political trends and social groups, most of which are misled as to their real interests, sometimes blinded by the propaganda of fear and scapegoating.”
The CPUSA are opposed to any new sanctions on Iran. That is considered far-right. They want peaceful negotiations.
“We must unite lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and straight people; professionals and intellectuals; seniors; and the disabled; and the mass peoples movements including the peace, environmental, health care, education, housing, and other movements. This all-peoples front to defeat the ultra-right is in the process of developing, learning, and being tested in giant struggles for peace, to protect social programs and services, to win health care for all, and to win control of all three branches of government from the right wing.”
OBAMA: Obama thinks anyone who is not as radical as he is are militaristic, racist and anti-democratic (as in socialist democratic). He is uniting everyone against the right with a divide and conquer technique. If you don’t support gay marriage, you are anti-gay; if you don’t support Obama, you’re a racist; if you want the borders closed, you’re a nativist; and if you want to keep your weapons, you are unforgivably militaristic and violent. Obama wants control of the three branches of government.
Communists believe the legal system is thoroughly racist and anti-working class. “U.S. prisons are bursting with over 2 million prisoners, with virtually no serious efforts at prevention or rehabilitation. Prisoners face widespread abuse and the anti-labor exploitation of prisoners for sub-minimum wages.”
Who can deny that this is Eric Holder’s belief? They want to go easy on crime.
The Communists want:
- a National Popular Vote;
- to replace U.S. foreign policy that protects U.S. interests with a policy of international cooperation;
- replace the Bill of Rights with the U.N. s Universal Declaration of Human Rights;
- complete separation of church and state;
- full legal protection from hate crimes and racial profiling and “outlawing of oral and written racist propaganda”;
- affirmative action; growth of public ownership of industries and a guaranteed right to a job at living wages or full income through government jobs;
- expansion of union rights;
- full funding for education, housing, day care, Social Security, universal health care, youth job training and recreation and cultural programs;
- compensate minorities for previous wrongs;
- no taxes for workers and low or middle income workers placing the burden on the rich;
- slash the military;
- media to be government owned and controlled.
Obama for his part appears to support:
- voter IDs be eliminated which plays well into the National Popular Vote;
- he has a policy of “international cooperation” which our enemies are taking advantage of;
- he has called us a secular nation and supports a radical separation of church and state. There is also the HHS mandate;
- our new Common Core is a propaganda machine for the U.N.s Marxist “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”;
- Obama sees racism, hate crimes everywhere. He has been clear about wanting free speech limited if it is offensive to others;
- his income inequality is all about living wages;
- he can’t spend enough on entitlements. He thinks our money is his;
- he has engaged in reparations for minorities. The Pigford settlement is only one example. His push for universal day care is unquestionably extreme;
- only 2% of the bottom 50% pay federal taxes right now;
- the military is being slashed;
- Obama already controls the media.
Is that what Obama meant when he said this?
Glenn Beck has been on this story for several years and though I don’t agree with everything he says, these videos have some very valid information. Listen to his videos from 2010 and see if you think he was somewhat prescient:
Communism still exists only it’s no longer condemned.
How did we get here?
Evan’s law – inadequate paranoia – no matter how bad you think things are, they’re always worse.
How to silence Conservatives.
BARACK OBAMA’S UPBRINGING
Barack Obama was a “red diaper baby.” His grandfather and parents were Communists. His grandfather allegedly had him mentored by his friend and fellow Communist and pedophile, Franklin Marshall Davis. Davis was on the FBI security list which means he could have been arrested or detained in the event of an attack.
He was thought to be a Haole hater (Caucasian). He worked on at least one committee with Vernon Jarrett for a communist-infested Packing-House Workers’ Union. Vernon Jarrett is the father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, Barack Obama’s closest advisor.
A key wiki report uncovered an article by Toby Harnden published in the Telegraph on August 22, 2008 which revealed the influence Communist Frank Marshall Davis had on the young Barack Obama.
According to Obama’s Dreams From My Father, Davis told Obama he had “reason to hate white people.” This prompted Obama to write: “To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active Black students. The foreign students. The Chicancos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”
Obama has refuted the claim that he was mentored by Davis but the two had a minimum of 15 long meetings as he was growing up.
An American Spectator article points out that “there are some truly remarkable similarities between the political actions of Obama and the ideas in Frank Marshall Davis’ columns: rejecting Winston Churchill; vilifying and targeting General Motors, a company Davis would have been thrilled to nationalize; advocating wealth redistribution from greedy corporations to health insurance and public works projects; favoring taxpayer funding of universal health care; supporting government stimulus; bashing Wall Street; trumpeting the public sector over the private sector; lambasting ‘excess profits’; warning God-and-gun clinging Americans about huckster preachers; seeking the political support of the ‘social justice’ religious left for various causes and campaigns; excoriating the ‘tentacles of big business,’ bankers, big oil, the ‘Big Boys,’ corporate profits, fat cats and their ‘fat contracts’; lambasting tax cuts that ‘spare the rich’ and that only benefit millionaires; singling out the ‘corporation executive’ for not paying his ‘fair’ share; and on and on. These thoughts and words of Frank Marshall Davis bear an uncanny resemblance to Obama’s thoughts and words and actions.’”
Barack isn’t a typical American Black. He has more in common with Indonesians and foreign students than Americans and American Blacks. As a young man, he went to the finest Hawaiian schools when he wasn’t being schooled in Indonesia.
Barack spent 20 years in a Black Liberation Theology church with an anti-Semitic, anti-white Marxist preacher, Jeremiah Wright.
He got his political start in the living room of Bill Ayers, the radical Communist who terrorized New York City as a Weatherman in the late 1960′s and early 1970′s.
In all this, I haven’t mentioned his lawlessness. Barack Obama does not enforce the laws he was elected to enforce and the media has applauded him for it. The American people seem apathetic. Are Americans ready for Communism? Was freedom too heavy a burden to bear?
This is all circumstantial evidence but there is so much more. At what point, does one have to seriously consider why Barack Obama’s platform is so similar to that of the CPUSA?